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So I stripped the reel motor and chiselled out the old grease and re packed it with fresh grease so now the squeal has gone The payouts are mostly correct but at times it will miss a 6p win and give 4p so a 2 symbol payout instead of 3. I found the hold timer easy to spot with the bent over cams so it gives less holds and some actually cut away! but since checking the micro switches it's not done it again?

Just dug this out after some time it sitting neglected! on the whole it's working but... The motor I think need re greased as it's whaling a bit on reel spin? when you achieve a 3 symbol win it gets stuck in a continual never ending hold after win loop? I see a stepper motor in the middle of one of the boards (gold colour) with 2 discs I have not seen that rotate? Reel 1 is out of line, I had the deck out but could need see a way of adjusting the stopper arm! Other than moving the reel band I can't see a way of sorting it. On the most part it pays out but I got 3 oranges it failed to pay and 3 cherries it only paid 4p instead of 6p, it seems to have some sort of light sensor and some micro switches on the reels for wins? pics to come Thanks Ronnie

Yes those two cups to guide the coins into the tube

Just spotted this Ronnie, Carfield electro's have to be the worst ever to work on, The problem is frustrating by the lack of Carfield schematics in circulation. I had a glimmer of hope when contacting the Dransfield company to find someone still working there that remembered these machines and thought some paperwork may be hidden away in a drawer. Unfortunately he reported like all the old gear they look to have been thrown out so, I was back to square one with Nicks machine too. A have made a little progress and managed to get it to fire up, fire being the operative word as it has a timer motor and buzzing plus it's constantly chattering a pay slide. as the pay slide is 240vac I have had to removed the offending relay to silence the slide. so work continues. The stripping of the motor and gearbox would have been my first suggestion for the squeal, the same solid grease I had to chisel out of Nicks reel motor gearbox too. Those light optical sensors that are part of the win circuit through holes in the reel drums are not the best system and this one had been tampered with so expect the wins could be wrong if I can get it running. there are three micro switches one on the back of each reel solenoid arm, they have something to do with the wins too as they are operated on cherry wins. One switch arm was completely snapped off on Nicks machine. The reel solenoid mountings again are different on Carfield to such as Bell Fruit, JPM etc and because of the holes through the reel drums for the light sensor, moving the actual solenoid mount won't be an option Moving the actual reel bands may be your only option to aligning the symbols on the win line. All those open relays that operate on mains 240vac will cause pitting of the contacts causes them to get a carbon coating and that in turn reduces the contact circuit and as the machine relies on good contacts can and will cause many different faults. They do need cleaning periodically but, especially after so many years of use. Contact cleaner is the best option with some heavy card between the contacts saves taking the coating off the contacts. The hold timer on Nicks machine appears to have had the same cam job done on it too. Talking to Paul, his Carfield had a couple of faulty timer motors of which I think he sourced from a donor machine so, As Nicks machine has at least one jamming motor it could be that is a problem with the age of these machines. Again they are 240vac, I have a load of 50v but they are no good for this repair so, The only source I have found for the same motors are from RS but not cheap.

No idea, which is of no help to you at all, but one thing i did learn after reading the mpu3 test sheets that Richie uploaded is that the 50p out and token refill meter are 50 volt and the rest are 12 volt with the meter sense on the 12 volt. (never realised that). Just shows how often you have or realise you have a meter fault.

Thanks for this Ron, luckily this has not been messed with apart from the hold cams, it’s dam near working perfect, I already have it up for sale but I will clean all the relay contacts as you described. I think I will just leave the reel band be as it might be brittle! Would hate to shatter it cheers ronnie

Thanks for the offer, I don't think I've got that one. Does that have a 12v meter panel? I've looked at some pics on here and I can't see it?

Oh nice, I would love a copy of that, got one recently and going to be restoring it

I've got a Razzle Dazzle schematic if that's of any use?

yes once the displays go dead it is too late to change the caps, the transformers on the epoch displays seem to fail the most. my advice is to get hold of a working one then right away change all the surface mount capacitors on it while it still works!

Evening all, I have been wanting a s&g for a very long time! I have a tuppenny cracker which I can convert back, I have the top glass also, I'm now on the hunt for a bottom glass, small side glass, program card, and reels / reel bands, I would love to get this one rebuilt, to add to the collection. Is anyone in a position to help please? Let me know Much appreciated Mike