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The left hold button seems to be faulty though as it's not responding when pressed for holds or nudges.

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Nice work, I was hoping that would be ok. That's a result being a good board in there. You really need to desolder the battery and neutralise the area or it will destroy it in no time. If you do there's no reason it won't keep running for years.

Andrew might be able to help but I think the vsync in the power supply that was missing helps to sync the all boards on whatever hertz range it runs at through the power loom rather than the serial cable. Thats the best I can come up with so far 🙂

For the button check the wiring your looking at the inner switch wiring and you can compare it to the next button. The outter two wires are for the lamp in the button and not important.. Also check the next button is correctly wired too. If it's all ok I'll tell you where to look next 😎

 

 

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Hold button was a loose connection into the hole so the outer button wasnt making contact with the wee black button. Also one of the spade connectors was off so put back in and light working now. :)

I have a few bulbs out so will sort that but another issue seems to be the coin mechanism as it's not recognising 5p and 10p coins. It still only accepts old £1 coins so wondering if I should just update it and sort the issue at the same time?

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Make sure the machine is turned off when you replace the dead bulbs. You might end up damaging your lamp driver board otherwise....

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11 hours ago, Boabyb said:

Hold button was a loose connection into the hole so the outer button wasnt making contact with the wee black button. Also one of the spade connectors was off so put back in and light working now. :)

I have a few bulbs out so will sort that but another issue seems to be the coin mechanism as it's not recognising 5p and 10p coins. It still only accepts old £1 coins so wondering if I should just update it and sort the issue at the same time?

Lots machines don’t accept 5p’s.

 

and are you trying old 10ps? Or the newer ones? 

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Definitely the newer ones, it's hit and miss whether it accepts them. Old £1 coins, 50p & 20p coins are fine. 

I've found a guy who's not far away from me to get the coin mech updated to the new £1 coins. Going to do that, replace the bulbs and then find someone who can solder so I can get the MPU battery fly connected to further it's lifespan. 

Cheers for all the help so far guys.

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Try older ones... as if it’s not been updated for new pounds, it may not be updated for new 10p

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The Epoch main board is the heart of that machine and will be a ballache to replace so here's a few more tips-

Keep it in an antistatic bag if your transporting it.

Keep it dark- the game data on the Eproms is erasable by UV light so keep it out of sunlight 

The alkaline battery leakage needs neutralizing or it will keep eating away for years. An epoch board can fit in a small container flat and you can tip some IP-alchol on it and leave it partially submerged for 10-15 mins. That will get under everything and kill off most of the rot on contact. Leave it for a good 12hours to dry somewhere safe. Check it now and again in the future. You can do this as many times as you like.

If you do all that with minimal tampering afterwards it should run for years 😎

People tend to neglect them and get highly frustrated when they stop working so look after it.

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So got an updated coin mech, still hit and miss with 5p's. 10p's work the majority of time with the rest working fine so not going to bother about it too much.

New issue now seems to be payout, filled the hopper with £100 of new £1 coins but when collecting it is trying to payout but nothing then an IOU flashes on the display. Any ideas?

 

Edit: worked out that the wee plastic routing thing that screws to the coin mech wasn't sitting right so the £1 coins were not going into the hopper. Fixed now 🙂

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Thought I'd fixed the hopper issue but still not filling up when entering £1 coins through the coin slot. Any ideas?

 

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If you have pressed the hopper topped up button it will think its full, perhaps you have done that, just a wild guess!!!!

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On 11/7/2020 at 7:37 PM, Andrew96_ said:

If you have pressed the hopper topped up button it will think its full, perhaps you have done that, just a wild guess!!!!

Just getting back round to sorting this, how do I make the machine think the hoppers empty if this is the issue? Thanks

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you do a hopper dump so it counts the coins out then you put them all back in the hopper, it then knows how much it has, hopper dump I cannot remember, I think you have to put the refill key in, go to dump hopper then press the hopper dump button, something like that... it has been a few years since I did one

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On 11/19/2020 at 9:32 PM, Andrew96_ said:

you do a hopper dump so it counts the coins out then you put them all back in the hopper, it then knows how much it has, hopper dump I cannot remember, I think you have to put the refill key in, go to dump hopper then press the hopper dump button, something like that... it has been a few years since I did one

Managed to dump the hopper to reset it. Refilled using the key and coins into the slot, all registered correctly. Won £15 and no money coming out and left with an IOU so the coins aren't diverting correctly. Only happened since changing the coin mech for an updated one that takes new £1 coins.

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If you dump the hopper once it counts up the float and adjusts and remains at what it's counted. If you do it twice it will count zero the second time. Now the float is empty.

Refil £25 in and start playing.

In the refil menu you should be able to read what the F000 H125 screen the F is what's in the machines float.

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