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Hi all

I have a project coin 777 Heaven that had a MS115 coin mech in it which I have changed to a CF126DFX to accept new £1 coins and 10p’s. The LED light comes on but every coin that I put in I get four flashes on the LED which relates to ( coin recognised but not accepted due to inhibit setting ) as I’m sure most of you know.

I have tried the machine in test mode and still the same.

I don’t know a great deal about machines so any advice would be great, if I can’t get it sorted I have no problems taking the machine to someone to look at it for me.

Thanks

Darren

 

 

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did it take coins before on the MS115 BEFORE you changed it?

Hi,

Yeah it took 50p’s and twenty 20p’s no problem. I put that old mech back in earlier and now it only takes 20p’s.

The token mech still works fine.

Darren

 

 

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as far as I am aware a CF126 will not work on this Project machine, the reason is the CF126 does not have the facility of a v com pin (pin 13 on ms115) to set the  accept outputs and therefore it cannot be changed, therefore only a ms111 or ms115 can be used.

 

 It has now been 3 years since I messed with those type of project machines, but I remember there was something different about them

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as far as I am aware a CF126 will not work on this Project machine, the reason is the CF126 does not have the facility of a v com pin (pin 13 on ms115) to set the accept outputs and therefore it cannot be changed, therefore only a ms111 or ms115 can be used.

 

If i am wrong then I am sure someone will be along and take great pleasure in saying otherwise! It has now been 3 years since I messed with those type of project machines, but I remember there was something different about them

ok I’ll get the Original mech re programmed for new coins and back in the machine see how we go.

Many Thanks

Darren

 

 

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the MS115 cannot be programmed to take the new pounds or the steel 10p's as they had the extra 'security' feature of not taking anything steel!

 

your best bet as far as I am aware is a MS111B1 mech as these can be programmed to take steel coins and are compatible with the sorter

 

 

Best consult with a coin mech expert on this as they should know what will work and what won't, but make sure they know about project PC92 tech as no doubt as you thought a CF126 would be the usual recommendation

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the MS115 cannot be programmed to take the new pounds or the steel 10p's as they had the extra 'security' feature of not taking anything steel!

 

your best bet as far as I am aware is a MS111B1 mech as these can be programmed to take steel coins and are compatible with the sorter

 

 

Best consult with a coin mech expert on this as they should know what will work and what won't, but make sure they know about project PC92 tech as no doubt as you thought a CF126 would be the usual recommendation

Ok thanks, the more info like this I have the easier it will be.

Thanks

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the MS115 cannot be programmed to take the new pounds or the steel 10p's as they had the extra 'security' feature of not taking anything steel!

 

Oh :(

 

Pretty sure both my machines, which I'd hoped to upgrade, have them.

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Oh :(

 

Pretty sure both my machines, which I'd hoped to upgrade, have them.

 

well it is what I have found when I was messing with the MS115, I could open them right up to accept anything metallic but they still would not accept anything with steel in them!

 

the ME115 are fine but don't have the V common pin!

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looks like that is still the same as even Mektek do not list the MS115 (But they do list the MS111 and ME115) so even they have not got round the steel issue by the looks of it

 

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well after a bit of searching it DOES appear the CF126 has the necessary v common pin!! it is just the pins are numbered top to bottom for CF and bottom to top for MS series!

 

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so you are right!! so if it is inhibiting then you need to check the inhibit lines are at 0v, with doors open it is likely not to take coins, if it is still inhibiting with doors closed then you may have to teach the mech to uninhibit coins!

 

page 18 of the manual here

 

http://www.microelec.co.uk/Assets/Technical%20Information/GB_CF126&129_USER_GUIDE_705707044_G3a.pdf

 

once that is done then you will have the tricky part of making up a routing plug to tell the mech where you want the coins to go as the routing plug from the MS115 is no good on this mech

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well after a bit of searching it DOES appear the CF126 has the necessary v common pin!! it is just the pins are numbered top to bottom for CF and bottom to top for MS series!

 

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so you are right!! so if it is inhibiting then you need to check the inhibit lines are at 0v, with doors open it is likely not to take coins, if it is still inhibiting with doors closed then you may have to teach the mech to uninhibit coins!

 

page 18 of the manual here

 

http://www.microelec.co.uk/Assets/Technical%20Information/GB_CF126&129_USER_GUIDE_705707044_G3a.pdf

 

once that is done then you will have the tricky part of making up a routing plug to tell the mech where you want the coins to go as the routing plug from the MS115 is no good on this mech

just finished 14 hours on the road so will look at through all this tomorrow.

Darren

 

 

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No pleasure Andrew but my 777h works fine with .The cashflow 126.

 

Edit that's with or without doors closed.

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No pleasure Andrew but my 777h works fine with .The cashflow 126.

 

Edit that's with or without doors closed.

 

I was sure there was something different with the machines like 777h, but I cant remember now what it was, I was sure it was the coin mech lol, but it isn't!

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I use MEI9524 (MEI95XX) mechs on my project machines and they take all coins up to £2 you can set routing yourself, but I do have a soft spot for that particular mech really. 

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I was sure there was something different with the machines like 777h, but I cant remember now what it was, I was sure it was the coin mech lol, but it isn't!

Really annoying when you know there is a quirk on a Tec that you resolved in the past... but can't remember exactly what it was.

 

This Tec it really picky where the opto flags are on relation to the motor angle. If it's not quite where it expects it to be it won't complete initialisation. Other times it will boot then every now and again do a reset in play.

 

At least the later project machines had movable flags on the drums. The jokers wild type is fixed and the sensor has to be moved related to the motor. Far too Diddley and no need to be so picky where the reel stops.

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